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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 1, 2009 3:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Darkness Darkness jam

Dig the "Darkness, Darkness" jam midway into the 6/6/70 Lovelight jam (before Pigpen starts singing without a warning) out of Drums.

http://www.dead.net/features/june-1-june-7-2009

(This week's Taper's Section includes the 6/6/70 Aligator/Lovelight suite and the acoustic set from 6/4/70.)

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jun 1, 2009 5:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Darkness Darkness jam

How come the acoustic 6/4/70 isn't on the archive?

Edit: It's not even listed on db.etree... the acoustic set, anyway. The last three songs have a Charlie Miller.

But the song listing on dead.net matches the set list for 6/4/70... which means this is real, and needs to be posted here!

This post was modified by GennyBenni on 2009-06-02 00:30:28

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jun 1, 2009 6:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 6/4/70

I mentioned the 6-4-70 acoustic set in this post, where I list the uncirculated early shows:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=248207

It's one of several early shows that are in the vault but have never circulated & traders don't have it - hence, no one can put it on the Archive.
A couple corrections to that -
One, as you saw, the very end of the show has long been in circulation and we have that - but the first couple reels never slipped out - Lemieux has given us just the acoustic set, he may have the first half of the second set (the deadlists setlist looks awfully short), or that reel may have gone missing like many other '70s reels - you can ask him.
Two, I don't know what special access Miller has to vault shows, but it's possible he might release the rest someday.

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Poster: GerryO Date: Jun 30, 2011 11:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 6/4/70

My first Dead show and I taped it; Acoustic, New Riders and Electric sets. Tonight I duped one of cassettes onto my hard drive and hope to edit it over the next couple of weeks. It's a little rough in spots, with a couple tape breaks and missed song starts.

This post was modified by GerryO on 2011-07-01 06:23:53

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 1, 2009 5:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Darkness Darkness jam

I like 6-7 even better; one of my fav shows, acoustic and electric combined...

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Jun 1, 2009 5:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Darkness Darkness jam

I've always wondered; what was the instrumentation for these 1970 acoustic sets? Obviously Jerry and Bob on guitar, but who else played? Did Phil play acoustic too?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jun 1, 2009 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Darkness Darkness jam

Sigh....Lemieux has played almost all these selections before....the happy exception is that now he's given us the entire 6/4/70 acoustic set - he just did a piece of it before. We should badger him to play more new stuff!

For Darkness lovers, these are the other spots where the Dead play it:
5/7/70 Lovelight
5/24/70 Lovelight (briefly)
9/19/70 NFA
12/12/70 (after Goin Down the Road, goes into the Stephen riff, very low-key)

As for the instruments - I believe Phil stayed on electric and just turned down. Sometimes a couple NRPS guys (David Nelson & Marmaduke) might join them for extra guitar, mandolin or harmonies.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 1, 2009 7:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Darkness Darkness jam

As LiA notes, it was variable. Often Jerry and Bob on acoustic, Phil on turned down bass, Billy (I assume) on minimalist drums, and then Dawson/Nelson might be present for harmonies/mandolin/etc. Don't know if Mickey and PP were doing anything or not...certainly PP played his own acoustic on his rare numbers.

In some settings, everyone was playing electric and just Bob was on acoustic, such as NSB, or alternatively, just Jerry might be on acoustic with MotM into DS with him switching to electric off course.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 3, 2009 5:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Darkness Darkness jam

Hey WT, when Graham introduces the band prior to one of the acoustic sets from 5-15-70, I think he introduces Mickey (as the son of Lenny Hart) but no Billy. I recall asking about this once and someone, GoP i think, said they would switch off on the acoustic sets. Regardless you are correct, who ever was playing they were not playing very loud. I think on the 12-26-69 one, after Billy finally arrives, both are playing for the last song (UJB) but Jerry tells them to play soft.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 3, 2009 6:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Darkness Darkness jam

Yeah--think that was the story that came up...I certainly don't know, and on a few, thought I could detect Billy's sound...and you are defn right about Jerry asking them "play soft" cause I have heard that a handful of times (or even just "softer!").

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